Democratic Socialism

Could we learn anything from Denmark?

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  1. Munkyman

    We can learn some things from just about any other people but, that doesn’t mean we should be like them, as you are well aware if you want to live like they do you can move there & do exactly that without trying to inflict your desires on those who aren’t interested in living as the Danes do. Things will work in Denmark because of their size & the nature of their population that just won’t work here for a variety of reasons mostly to do with the nature of our population & our expectations.

    August 10, 2016
    1. RRoe

      Do you think democratic socialism would work well for our 750,000 homeless people? Do you think they might have a different opinion than you?

      August 10, 2016
      1. Munkyman

        Do you think they add up to 1/3 of 1% of US? They don’t get to decide their needs outweigh the majority. There are other ways to help them & you are probably one of those who honestly believes that no one chooses to be homeless, in spite of the fact that many do for a variety of reasons. The people that you can pull on my emotions with are the PTSD veterans who are homeless because it’s a choice between a locked ward drugged down to docile if they’re lucky enough to get into a hospital & the street. Still I refuse to be manipulated by emotional triggers when discussing government. I don’t think the government has done charity very well over the years it’s had control of social services & taken the funds to provide them from our paychecks. I suggest that we should find a way that works better here.

        August 10, 2016
        1. RRoe

          How do you think democratic socialism would work for all those that do not have healthcare, about 20 million I understand in Florida and Texas alone? How much time have you spent with the homeless? Do you walk up to each one that comes your way and talk to them as a person or do you turn away?

          40% of the available work force is not working, highest ever … for example, 250,000 jobs created last month, the unemployment figure didn’t change. Why, because there are a huge pool of unemployed that have given up and are not counted. 40% of our children are below the poverty level, highest ever.

          There is great wealth in this country but it is not being distributed to those in real need in this society. I judge a society for how they care for the weakest among them. Compare us to how Australia, Denmark, etc, etc, take care of their people … I have visited dozen of countries where these problems do not exist — all of them with LESS wealth than us. Our system is a dismal failure in taking care of the weakest among us including your PTSD vets. Our system is fundametally flawed and will never be fixed. It has been in decline for the poorest/weakest among us for 40 years.

          And yet, dozens of countries have figured it out …. even China is now doing better than us (yes, been there too). Our wealth inequality is now worse than China’s.

          First, we have to recognize the scope and depth of the problem. Trump followers feel the pain. (Abolishing trade deals will not fix anything, however.) Then you have to be open to radical solutions to fix severe problems in a broken system. Or, you can keep your head in the sand where it is safe and believe all the suffering is caused by those that are suffering.

          August 11, 2016
          1. Munkyman

            A fair amount I cook for them 4 times a year, I’ve volunteered at the local shelter.
            BS China has less wealth inequality than us, I have close friends from there & the party elite live like the House of Bourbon in 1789 while the people in the far flung villages still have issues with starvation & total lack of medical care for more than 100 miles.
            We are a Democratic republic, the government’s focus is to be on keeping the 80% of us in the middle enabled & the 5% at the top are obliged to care for the 10% at the bottom… leaving the 5% from the top free to create new wealth. When a Republic becomes focused on the far ends instead of the broad middle it withers. Here’s the radical solution, buy local put your money into stocks of companies that produce in the US & not into mutual funds that invest in Asia because you demand the highest return on your retirement accounts no matter who it hurts. It’s the millions with a 401k that are crippling the American worker not the few rich people, they’re as greedy as any billionaire & they want the best returns they can get & the sad part is some even know & they don’t care they’re crushing their neighbors & that it’ll eventually hit their own family, they want 20% return every single year & they don’t care how you get it for them. The fact remains that after 50 years of social services we have more not fewer poor people, the system doesn’t work, not here not nation wide. We might have better luck with the states more in control of their social services dollars, we might just be better off doing away with the system & cutting checks for equal portions of the SS budget to all who apply. The problem is that Denmark isn’t US & we aren’t them so to assume we can just do what they do & it’ll work is far too simplistic. We could easily take care of our poor & homeless but, there’s be lawsuits about how the system doesn’t respect their rights. We can reopen old military bases & move people to them set up training camps where we take the people who move to the bases & find out what they’re good at then train them in a job that utilizes their attributes. That’s what Germany does at about the middle school age, they sort people for the education they’ll get. We don’t tend to go for being told what we’re going to do. So travel as much as you like, I enjoy it too but, don’t pretend that we can just cut & paste what a completely different culture does. Emotional manipulation just isn’t the way to make your point to me.

            August 11, 2016
            1. RRoe

              My friend, the middle class is rapidly disappearing from America. Jobs are disappearing all around the world from smart machines/robots, computers, and now artifical intellengence. Within a decade half of our workers will not be needed to produce all the good and services that we want to produce. But, on what basis will we distribute the goods and services when 75% will not have jobs. (Now, we can argue about the exact numbers, but the reality is, and it is already happening if you look around, we need less workers every day …. and the jobs that are opening are service jobs which are already saturated …. ) So, how does capitalism work for those people not chosen to work?

              August 12, 2016
          2. Munkyman

            you can’t try pretending this is capitalism with me it’s Usury, not capitalism, middle classes do not grow under socialism, the poor are just appeased enough to not revolt until they’ve been disarmed well enough for it to not matter if they do.

            August 12, 2016
  2. sofiawhitelegge

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    November 10, 2016